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Installed it, and it seems to be running fine. Not so many worries about security as with Wordpress, kind of a relief in a way. The one potential resource thing at some point is that when you publish/republish the pages, it needs CPU (obviously), but that's just during that time when it's doing its thing -- with just a few pages/posts the process took between 2-5 seconds but obviously the time it takes is going to increase as the content increases. With lots of content, republishing the site might take up some CPU for a longer period of time, but again, that depends on the amount of content. If I'm not mistaken, it's probably not something that would need to be done very often, you'd just publish the new pages, not republish the whole site. This would be an area where Cloud Linux, for instance, would be really cool -- it's not that it's a process that takes forever, it just needs CPU to do it once, and then it's done, so throttling it would be absolutely no problem. Also, if you've got a powerful CPU doing it, it won't take as long. It's the one thing I'm paying attention to. It tells you how long it took to do it when it does it, so it's an easy thing to pay attention to. I'm seeing more shared environments that have used it successfully, so it's probably going to be OK.

I really am just interested in installing it and learning about it. It does seem that depending on the activity, shared hosting might not be the best place for it. I just want to try it out and learn about it, that's really all. Apparently it's static, not dynamic like Wordpress, so it scales really well. Might as well give it a shot, apparently there are other shared hosting providers where it works, so I figure it will probably be OK.

Quick and easy question -- Is Movable Type too resource-intensive for these shared hosting environments? I couldn't find anything when I searched these forums. Anyone have any experience with it in this type of shared environment?

I'm curious, for instance, if, say you had a Basic shared plan, and your traffic and so on slowly built up over a period of time, so if you then moved to something like an Advanced shared hosting (for instance if you don't really need a VPS yet), would the limits be different between the Basic and Advanced? Or if you moved up to a Reseller account to create separate accounts for different domains you had -- would the limits increase? Or are the limits more there just to protect the stability of the server? I'm just curious -- either way, it sounds like a great idea. I'd certainly feel bad if I made a stupid mistake somewhere and caused problems for other people -- it's nice to have a safety net there. In the sense that if your site is growing, could you make incremental steps within the shared/reseller environment before jumping into a VPS or a dedicated? That might be a really cool way to scale it up without disturbing others, and then making the jump to a VPS, etc..., when you really need it.

Yeah, you ABSOLUTELY need a dedicated IP to do it. It's not all that expensive.

I realize this is a long shot, but is there any way, on a shared hosting account, to get an idea of what type of system resources (memory, cpu, etc) your website is using? I'd not be surprised that there isn't any way, but even on a command line via ssh? top, vmstat, with a particular option? It would just be nice to be able to monitor these things and be proactive about it. Just curious.

You skip the generation of the Certificate Signing Request, I think -- that's only needed by the companies that hand out the certificates when you actually buy a real live certificate (they're not that expensive anymore BTW). Cpanel has the SSL/TLS manager under the Security section. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the process would be 1) generate private keys; 2) generate a certificate (self-signed, obviously); 3) activate SSL on your website. you would skip the generation of the CSR, which would normally come between steps one and two. I think that's correct, but don't quote me on it. The CSR is what you have to give to the company when you purchase a certificate, but you can skip that step (I think) if you're self-signing. Then you can, depending on your OS and browser, add exceptions or add the key or certificate so that it's recognized on your computer (because you know it's you). When you install WP, though, don't do it at https because that's where it will be "installed". Install at http, then maybe change a password. Once it's installed, use https. Or you can also change that in the settings, I suppose. Probably easier to install at http though.

BINGO. The .htaccess file wasn't being written by the installer for some reason, so I had to upload my own. However, the default .htaccess file on the Habari installation wiki has a line that says "RewriteBase /" -- what I had to do was to change that line to the subdirectory (e.g.) "RewriteBase /Habari" that I was installing it into. It's up and running, so far, so good. Looks like a pretty decent piece of software. Thanks!

Yeah, I used localhost. I have a feeling it might have something to do with Litespeed vs Apache. I tried the predefined configuration method too, where you upload the config.php file with all the database info so the installer doesn't ask you for it, and I got an error page that it couldn't connect to the database -- couldn't even get to the installer. I know it needs the PDO for whatever database that is (MySQL, SQLite, PostrgeSQL), and I was only just wanting to try it out, I don't really NEED it or anything, so I didn't want to bother anyone too much about it. The test file passed for me too, but Postgres was greyed out on the installer because there's no PDO. I saw something about that in another thread here, I tried MySQL, which wasn't greyed out, so PDO is probably enabled on that, so I doubt Postgres would work either even if PDO were enabled on it. I went ahead and installed Wordpress for now, but I'll keep digging around see if I can figure it out. Best I can imagine is that it's got something to do with Litespeed in a shared environment and how it handles certain newer object oriented stuff. It's appears to work at a number of shared hosts, but I believe they run Apache, so that might be it. It's all a work in progress, it's probably only a matter of time. No biggie, I don't absolutely need it or anything, I just thought I'd try it out -- seems like a nice piece of software.

Has anyone ever tried to install Habari on a shared account? Seems like some interesting software. I tried, but was receiving a 404 error when the installer tried to connect to the database to verify everything was OK -- I double-checked passwords and everything -- I'm thinking it might be related to permissions of some sort, or it might be that it's Litespeed and not Apache. I'll have to do some more digging, but I'm just curious if anyone's installed it successfully on the shared account. Just curious, that's all. Just wanted to try it out, it sounds like an interesting software program.